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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For information on retitling files, categories, and other items, see § When not to use this page.
Any autoconfirmed user can move a page using the "Move" option in the editing toolbar; see how to move a page for more information. If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
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Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
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Requests are typically processed after seven days. If consensus supports the move at or after this time, a reviewer will perform it. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved." When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time, or closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
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Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
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The page moves in 2012 are stable, so they are not summarily revertible without discussion. This request also doesn't include a substantive reason for preferring the original article title (but now with a dash instead of a hyphen). SilverLocust💬14:05, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My character encoding converter is currently indicating that the second and fourth letters that you just typed here and are using in the article, ь, is actually the soft sign letter in Cyrillic, not the b letter in Latin. If it is suppose to be Latin b, as in Qbzbl Armies, you should also be able to move it there normally. If it really is suppose to be the soft sign ь in Cyrillic, then no such page move. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:39, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both I with bowl#Encoding and the second paragraph of the lead section of Yañalif discuss this issue that the letter is not included in character encoding methods like Unicode, and therefore most computer systems substitute it with similar letters like the Cyrillic soft sign. That is likely why both my system and the Wiki software do detect it as the soft sign and not the obsolete Yañalif letter. Zzyzx11 (talk) 16:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am somewhat surprised that @Soman would put in this RMTR request just before putting the article up for DYK [1] which seems risky. It would seem wise to defer one or the other for now, as we wouldn't want this to be posted at DYK and then have a page move occur in the middle of it with the necessary cleanup required. Nor does it even seem like a full RM would make sense. TiggerJay(talk)17:32, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewer of that nom here, I had approved it because I was unaware it’d be controversial; I thought it’d be moved shortly after being approved. EF517:34, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have restored this to its prior long-term title of Battle of Shklow, which also matches the article on the town itself at Shklow. This should probably be discussed as it doesn't seem uncontroversial at least, given uncertainty over common name and that the locality is in present-day Belarus rather than Poland. — Amakuru (talk) 22:07, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Seefooddiet These sorts of moved have been seen as particularly contentious recently. This should require either a full RM, or perhaps better yet, a discussion over at WP:NCKO to help clarify the issues causing great contention. TiggerJay(talk)17:36, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Seefooddiet These sorts of moved have been seen as particularly contentious recently. This should require either a full RM, or perhaps better yet, a discussion over at WP:NCKO to help clarify the issues causing great contention. TiggerJay(talk)17:36, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Archivalbrowser Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES we don't necessarily use their full legal name, but rather the WP:COMMONNAME. And while looking through both the first 20 article citations -- aside from legal documents -- the majority of sources simply use Bet Tzedek. Furthermore their website and social media sources point towards the shorter name as well. TiggerJay(talk)19:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I felt unsure considering the article’s creation begin with the title originally as Bet Tzedek - House of Justice, so I contacted the organization and they stated the legal name of their organization is in full Bet Tzedek Legal Services. Archivalbrowser (talk) 20:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Archivalbrowser - yes the House of Justice in the title is also probably not ideal, so I'm glad you did some work to sort things out. But yes, common name is still preferred here, which I think the current title is at the best place. But you can disagree with me, and start a full RM by clicking "discuss" next to your request above and bring it to the article talk page. TiggerJay(talk)20:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
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(Discuss) – Onmyōji (novel series) → Onmyōji (short story series) – Although there are two novels in the series (one of them published across two volumes), there are sixteen volumes of short stories (and counting). Between the two, it is far more a series of short stories than one of novels. However, if there’s a term that encapsulates both, that might be preferable. The Japanese article uses 小説, which can refer to either. Tempjrds (talk) 02:44, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Burzenland → Țara Bârsei – WP:COMMONNAME. The last RM was rejected for no particular reason, no policy was invoked against WP:COMMONNAME that I argued applied here, I will argue more elaborately my RM now and ask for any opposing users to base their rationale on Wikipedia policies. "Țara Bârsei" is the Romanian name for an originally German ethnographic region today in Romania. "Țara Bârsei" is overall more common than "Burzenland" (the German name) in English-language sources in Google Scholar, it has 577 results vs. 477 results for Burzenland. We can see that the Romanian name has sharply increased in use in the past, showcasing a shift in academia: only 19 English-language sources from before 2000 use Țara Bârsei, vs. 89 for Burzenland, the ratio became 1:2 in 2010 (79 vs. 151), Burzenland was surpassed in 2019 (353 vs. 347), and more than double of sources since 2023 have used Țara Bârsei (75) compared to Burzenland (35), completely reversing the situation. Not only is Țara Bârsei overall more common, it has never been used as widely as today in English. Romanians form today an ethnic majority everywhere in the region (based on the #Towns section of the article) except for Apața, where they are a plurality. Having quickly checked all settlements listed there, I don't think I saw a single one where Germans reached even 2% of the population (the German population of Romania has decreased very sharply, from 786,000 in 1939 to 22,907 in 2022, info on why here [5][6]). The region is named after a tributary located fully in Romania, the article of which uses its Romanian name: Bârsa (Olt) (Burzen in German). Opposers of the previous RM stated that this article's topic mostly covers the historical moment when this region still had a German majority, but the name of Țara Bârsei sees widespread modern use (e.g. a local magazine that had published as recently as December 2023 [7], a 2024–2027 development project co-funded by the EU [8], a 2025 cultural event [9] or really just rather regular local news [10][11][12][13]). Țara Bârsei is more common both by English-language academia and by the native population, which has not abandoned the name, and it also follows the language of the namesake tributary it is named after. Previous policy-based arguments were dismissed without an appeal to policy. SuperΨDro00:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
February 4, 2025
(Discuss) – Rashtrakutas → Rashtrakuta Empire – The last RM was based on an ambiguous WP:AT and was no where close to WP:PRECISION, which unironically led to a surge in Ngram hits. The basis of measurement was flawed and shouldn't be taken into account—"Romans" yields more hits than "Roman Empire," but that doesn't mean it's the precise common name of the entity. Moreover, Ngram is not the sole tool for determining a common name. Not to mention, the previous Ngram analysis was limited to the year 2019 and lacked proper filtering for case sensitivity. Considering all factors, the new search provides a slightly different perspective, showing that there isn't a significant gap between "Rashtrakuta dynasty" and "Rashtrakuta Empire" [14]. Additionally, putative publishers tend to reference "Rashtrakuta Empire" more frequently than "Rashtrakuta dynasty.": {| class="wikitable" |+ !Engine !"Rashtrakuta Empire" !"Rashtrakuta dynasty" |- |Oxford Academic |10 |6 |- |Wiley Library |7 |1 |- |Taylor & Francis |29 |28 |} – GarudaTalk!22:14, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Operation Ten-Go → Operation Kikusui I – Operation Ten-Go was the overall name for Japanese air operations during the entire Okinawa campaign, replacing the previous Sho operations. The Japanese-language version doesn't mention Yamato until the very end. The Yamato sortie was part of one of the sub operations, Kikusui I, as a last-minute add-on. Alternative, 'Last sortie of the Yamato' or a similar title would also be appropriate. Palm_Dogg (talk) 21:41, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Fortress castle → Yagura castle – I'd like to propose a (potentially controversial?) reversal of the page moves by user Ish ishwar on 23 July 2019, where they moved the pages "Yagura caste" and "Yagura opening" to "Fortress castle" and "Fortress opening" respectively. This was seemingly done in accordance with WP:ENGLISHTITLE, going by Ish ishwar's edit summaries, which cite Fairbairn as a source for the translation. This seems to refer to John Fairbairn, author of the 1984 book Shogi for Beginners (ISBN4871872017). However, I would argue that: # "Yagura castle" is an English term according to WP:ENGLISHTITLE, and does not need to be translated further. #: It is commonly used in English sources about shogi, including in books. Japanese-English Shogi Dictionary by Tomohide "Hidetchi" Kawasaki (ISBN4905225086) uses "Yagura castle" alongside fully English terms like "Double Wing Attack" and "Side Pawn Picker," as can be seen on this photo. Other sources that use the term include Computers and Games by Jonathan Schaeffer and Martin Müller (2003), and Shogi: Japan's Game of Strategy by Trevor Leggett (2011). #: (On Google Search, the terms "yagura castle" and "yagura opening" also seem to be more commonly used on pages related to shogi than "fortress castle" and "fortress opening," although admittedly the difference is not large enough to be conclusive.) # "Fortress" is an inaccurate translation of the Japanese term. #: For the word "yagura" there is no definition equivalent to "fortress" mentioned in this online dictionary, or on Japanese Wikipedia's disambiguation page at . According to sources quoted on , the name of the shogi formation either comes from it looking similar to tower structures seen on walls and gates of Japanese castles (which are called Yagura (tower) on English Wikipedia), or it is named after a shop named Yagura (やぐら屋) that used to be located in Osaka city (in which case it would be a proper noun of unknown origin that cannot be translated). The fact that "fortress" does not correspond well to the original Japanese term of course does not make it less notable as an English term, and I think it should still be mentioned as an alternative name at the top of the article. However, I do feel that it is an additional argument (alongside the prevalence argument in point 1) for preferring "yagura" over "fortress" in the article titles, and as a primary term throughout the article texts. Spenĉjo (talk) 01:06, 27 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia14:32, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Behind Enemy Lines (1986 film) → P.O.W. The Escape – The previous discussion that led to the determination that the film's primary title was Behind Enemy Lines appears to have been in error. The biography of actor David Carradine (Endless Highway, p. 553) states that Behind Enemy Lines was the filming title, later changed to P.O.W. The Escape. Every review and advertisement published at the time of the film's domestic opening (such as a free-to-access Los Angeles Times review by Patrick Goldstein), shows that the title had already been changed to P.O.W. The Escape. The American Film Institute catalog also calls it P.O.W. The Escape and identifies Behind Enemy Lines as a working title. Redacwiki (talk) 13:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk) 16:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia14:28, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Potamoi → River gods (Greek mythology) – "River gods in Greek mythology" (or similar) would also work fine. I can't find mention of the name "Potamoi" in any Greek mythological reference work (eg., Brill's New Pauly, Pauly–Wissowa, Gantz's Early Greek Myth, Grimal's Dictionary of Classical Mythology, Tripp's Crowell's Handbook of Classical Mythology) with the exception of Hard's Routledge Handbook of Greek Mythology (for the quote from Hard, see the section directly above). Brill's New Pauly also has its entry at "River gods". Michael Aurel (talk) 12:45, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Chris Wright (energy executive) → Chris Wright – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. TimeToFixThis (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC) I propose moving the article Chris Wright (energy executive) to Chris Wright. Chris Wright will be serving as the United States Secretary of Energy, making him the most notable individual with this name. Given his high-profile position, he is the clear primary topic over other individuals named Chris Wright. TimeToFixThis (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Amouda cinema → Amuda cinema fire – The town's name is reported as Amuda in most sources and that is the name that the town's Wikipedia article is under. Adding "fire" makes it more clear that the article is predominantly about the fire, since the theatre is not notable in and of itself. Grumpylawnchair (talk)21:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Timelines of world history → ? – I'm not convinced that this is the best title for this article. World history seems to be more about human history although the term can technically be used for the history of Earth. Another option would be Timelines of the universe, but Timeline of the universe already exists. I'm torn on the title here. What would be a good title that represents the history of everything? I'm looking towards somewhere along the lines of Timeline of everything, but that title would be impractical. What do you think? Interstellarity (talk) 21:36, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Assemblies of God → World Assemblies of God Fellowship – On 16 July 2007, Assemblies of God and World Assemblies of God Fellowship were merged. Reason was for disambiguation. This request is to unmerge the two pages for the same reason of disambiguation and accuracy. Once unmerge, this page should be redirected to World Assemblies of God Fellowship. The move cannot be made because the name World Assemblies of God Fellowship already exists in the Wikipedia database. It needs to be unmerged first. There is a contention by another author that Assemblies of God is the common name. However, when the average person says, “Assemblies of God,” they are either referring to the Assemblies of God USA denomination or to people in general who belong to an AG denomination. But this page is not about the USA denomination, nor is it about people in general who belong to an AG denomination. This page is about the global cooperative body of over 170 Pentecostal denominations. It self identifies as World Assemblies of God Fellowship, and it is consistently referred to by others as such (per the references cited on the page). Calling this page Assemblies of God does not meet the precision test for article title. Tinihere (talk) 02:41, 3 February 2025 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Intrisit (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Maa Manithan → Maa Manithan (1995 film) – Both these films can easily be confused and in fact, the first source from this page [21] doesn't use a space (the 'n' may have been omitted due to size constraints) [22]. The title card from this film doesn't leave enough space leading to confusion [23]. Even if Maamanithan (film) is not moved, I feel this page should be moved nonetheless since it is not the primary topic. DareshMohan (talk) 04:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Foreign Secretary → ? – We currently have the British foreign secretary at Foreign Secretary and a disambiguation page for the other foreign secretaries at Foreign secretary. This distinction is an arbitrary Wikipedia decision, with no basis in the external world. It is unhelpful to both readers and editors. I cringe every time I have to pipe [[Foreign Secretary|foreign secretary]], and I can imagine that the readers are misled or confused by this Wiki-invented distinction. So how do we solve this? Do we: *A) treat the British foreign secretary as the primary meaning, leave this page at Foreign Secretary, and make Foreign secretary redirect to Foreign Secretary, *B) move this page to an unambiguous title and make Foreign Secretary a redirect the Foreign secretary disambiguation page, or *C) leave the circus as it is. Surtsicna (talk) 23:48, 26 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Park Jun Yong → Park Jun-yong – this is the standard for Korean names, especially for MMA fighters. Want to make it consistent. This page was originally the anglicized version of "Jun Yong Park" but was changed abruptly. Currently, Park Jun-yong is a redirect page. Thanks in advance. Marty2Hotty (talk) 17:27, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – List of tie-breaking votes cast by the vice president of the United States → List of tie-breaking votes cast by the vice president in the United States Senate – There are 3 main reasons for this proposal: * Explicit Reference to the Senate – The vice president's tie-breaking votes are cast specifically in the United States Senate, as outlined in Article I, Section 3, Clause 4 of the U.S. Constitution. The current title does not explicitly state this, which could lead to ambiguity. * Consistency with Related Articles – Other Wikipedia articles referencing the vice president’s Senate role (e.g., "President of the United States Senate") include "Senate" in the title for clarity. This move aligns with Wikipedia's style of specificity in legislative and governmental topics. * Improved Readability – The proposed title more clearly conveys the scope of the list, making it immediately evident that the vice president's role as a tie-breaker applies only in the Senate. This move enhances clarity without altering the fundamental meaning of the article. I welcome discussion on this proposal. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 12:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Q clearance → Department of Energy security clearances – My overall suggestion is that we move this to a more general article, like the proposed name, then merge in the related L clearance article into it. Both are short stubs that will likely always have limited information available, and tend to remain stubs. Also making it a more general article might make it easier to flesh out and expand. (I know there was a previous suggestion in 2007 to merge with the general Security clearance article. I'm not proposing this, I agree that keeping it separate makes sense.)-- The Navigators (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – United States DOGE Service → United States Digital Service – Per the conversations on the talk page starting 22 January 2025, the two organizations are both notable and different and should be two different pages. There is also precedent for this with the CIA and Health and Human Services. A new page will be created for the new United States DOGE Service content. There was no previous discussion before the first Move. Mathboarder (talk) 20:55, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Catherine Parr → ? – The woman in question signed her name consistently as Kateryn Parr, with one known example of Katheryn Parr. This has been frequently been converted to Katherine Parr in literature regarding her, though it should be noted that both Kateryn and Katheryn are names easily enough found today, not only in relation to this person. Contemporary sources are unanimous in spelling her name with a K, perhaps most tellingly her grave's plaque using Kateryn. I fear that the age of this article has regrettably led to Wikipedia promoting an error that has later been propagated. It cannot be too soon to correct it. 82.4.73.190 (talk) 19:29, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Shoe tossing → Throwing of shoes – Per the previous two talk page sections, this article should take a more generic title if it's covering contexts where the verb toss isn't, and probably wouldn't, be used. A dictionary definition is "to throw something somewhere lightly or casually", which doesn't apply to protest attacks or sports. Belbury (talk) 15:18, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Kuwohi → Clingmans Dome – Article was moved, without any discussion I am able to find, in late 2024 following an official renaming by the US government. This was a clear violation of Wikipedia's longstanting policy of using WP:COMMONNAMES rather than WP:OFFICIALNAMES as WP:TITLES. Perhaps Kuwohi will become the common name in time, perhaps it won't, but at the present time there is no evidence Kuwohi has supplanted Clingmans Dome in common use. The move was premature. Jbt89 (talk) 15:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – KN-02 Toksa → Hwasong-11 – These cases are similar to Hwasong-7 and Hwasong-10. The Hwasong-7 and Hwasong-10 are commonly referred to using external name given by United States (Rodong/Nodong and Musudan, respectively). These articles using official North Korea desginations. According to a The Hankyoreh article (here), "In many cases, the names given by other countries have entered more common usage than the names given by the countries that actually produced them. This has to do with the practice of most countries declining to give the actual name of missiles in the development stages or actual key use, due to reasons of military secrecy". KN-02, KN-06 and KN-19 have official North Korean designation (Hwasong-11, Pongae-5 and Kumsong-3, respectively), suggesting the revelation of official names. The M142 HIMARS (whose common name is HIMARS), and UGM-133 Trident II (whose common name is Trident II or Trident II D5) using official United States's designations, therefore, it seems unfair for North Korean missile articles to use the US designation (KN-xx) as title, although the official North Korean designations are known. And the common name policy appears to be not suitable for these cases. Therefore, the above articles (KN-02 Toksa, KN-06 and KN-19) should be moved per above. TCU9999 (talk) 04:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TCU9999 (talk) 11:05, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ben-Hur → Ben-Hur (disambiguation) – The 1959 film, one of the most influential films of all time, is the primary topic both per all-time pageviews (WP:PT1) and long-term significance (WP:PT2). The only other serious contenders for the primary topic are the novel upon which the film is based: Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ; and a 2016 remake of the 1959 film: Ben-Hur (2016 film). Detailed pageview data for these three articles reveal that the surprisingly high pageviews for the 2016 film mostly accumulated at the time of the film's release and have since dissipated due to the effects of WP:RECENTISM. Besides, a poorly received remake is unlikely to surpass the original in terms of notability.As for the original novel, not only are pageviews consistently lower, but the film has arguably left a greater cultural impact and legacy. There is precedent for highly notable adaptations overtaking its source material as the primary topic, e.g. The Godfather vs. The Godfather (novel) and Forrest Gump vs. Forrest Gump (novel). Furthermore, the novel is a partial title match, as it is titled Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ and not Ben-Hur, so it is already sufficiently distinct and naturally disambiguated per WP:SMALLDETAILS, and there is no risk for confusion. We have articles with even more subtle differences that have not had problems, e.g. Airplane vs. Airplane! and 1984 vs. Nineteen Eighty-Four. InfiniteNexus (talk) 07:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – August 2020 Midwest derecho → 2020 Midwest derecho – This far and away outshines any other derechos in the midwest that year - hell, any derecho in general, I would argue. It affected the "midwest" region (a less-than-clearly defined one, I may add) more than any of the others in the Great Plains and Great Lakes region that year, and searching for the "2020 derecho" online brings you here, so I don't think the disambiguators are necessary (a hatnote will be needed, however). I'm thinking of getting this article to GA or even FA at some point so I want to get this move out of the way. Departure– (talk) 16:30, 24 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Arbitrarily0(talk)17:55, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – French fries → Fries – 'Fries' is a more generic term that can cover both the subsets of 'french fries' and 'chips' while avoiding/providing a good compromise for the long-standing US vs. UK language differences. From a UK perspective, I'm OK with counting both french fries and chips as subsets of fries, but chips as a subset of french fries seems odd. From a US perspective, I think 'Fries' are in common usage (it's always been 'would you like fries with that?' when I've been visiting the US), at least as a shorter term? Even McDonald's in the US calls them Fries [45]. Curious to hear thoughts! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.estar8806 (talk) ★17:54, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Claims to the first powered flight → Claims to the first powered airplane flight – Per WP:PRECISE. The current page title does not specify the type of aircraft, while the article description, the lead, and the content make it very clear that the topic is airplanes. However, powered and crewed airships predate airplanes by several decades, which led to recent confusion about the intended scope of this article. Airships are technologically distinct from airplanes and their history is adequately covered in Airship#History; adding airships here would dilute and diminish the actual topic and lead to bloat. Note about spelling: this article is currently written predominantly with the British spelling of "aeroplane", perhaps because this spelling was more universal in the early decades of airplane flight; however, I have chosen "airplane" for consistency with the main Wikipedia article on the topic. Carguychris (talk) 14:26, 24 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)15:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Circle of Hope → Circle of Hope (book) – I am proposing that the page "Circle of Hope" be turned into a disambiguation page, with the article for this book being disambiguated. It is my personal opinion that the former boarding school is the primary topic for this phrase (albeit I am somewhat biased, as I created the page for the school), but the book is relatively recent and has been a finalist for a major award, so I believe that the best course of action is to create a disambiguation page and reassess the situation in a year or two. Per Toolforge, the boarding school receives about 50% more views than the book does. There was a spike in both pages on 10/28/2024. Not sure what the original source of that is right now. Other spikes have occurred on the boarding school's page in Nov. and Dec. 2024, but without the coinciding views on the book's page. https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2024-10-10&end=2025-01-22&pages=Circle_of_Hope%7CCircle_of_Hope_Girls_Ranchwizzito | say hello! 04:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)05:02, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Dubai Inc. → Business activities of the government of Dubai – The phrase "Dubai Inc." is an unofficial, slightly pejorative term used by foreign press to describe a group of businesses and organizations that are owned or influenced by Dubai's government and ruling family. It gives the false impression of being the official name of an organized company, appears to fail WP:NPOVTITLE, and is too informal to be encyclopedic. Ibadibam (talk) 19:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Mielec) → Grzegorz Lato Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 16:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Sněžka → Śnieżka-Sněžka – The proposal to rename the article from Sněžka to Śnieżka-Sněžka seeks a balanced solution that respects both Polish and Czech cultural identities, especially in light of the previous discussion held on 17 July 2024. In that discussion, various arguments were raised about the significance of the mountain to both countries, with the Czech name Sněžka being more commonly used in English sources. However, the Polish name Śnieżka also holds considerable recognition and importance, particularly within Poland. The dual naming Śnieżka-Sněžka would not favor one name over the other, but instead reflect the mountain's shared heritage for both nations. This compromise mirrors the historical use of both names, respecting the cultural ties each country has to the peak. In the 2024 discussion, the shift in English-language references toward Sněžka was noted, but it was also acknowledged that both names have significant usage. The Czech name has gained prominence, but the Polish name continues to appear in a variety of international contexts, particularly given the mountain’s location within the Karkonosze range, which is central to Poland’s natural heritage. This historical and geographical significance suggests that a dual naming approach, such as Śnieżka-Sněžka, would be the most fair and comprehensive solution. It would reflect the shared importance of the mountain without prioritizing one nation’s name over the other, maintaining neutrality and inclusivity. Furthermore, the previous debate emphasized the need to follow common usage in English sources, but also considered the broader cultural context. By using both names, Śnieżka-Sněžka would maintain consistency with Wikipedia's naming conventions while also preserving the cultural and historical significance of both nations. This would offer a more integrative approach, acknowledging both Poland and the Czech Republic’s connections to the mountain and fostering a sense of mutual respect. Such a compromise would help to avoid the nationalistic debates that often arise around geographic names and would instead focus on a more inclusive representation of this iconic peak. Paradygmaty (talk) 15:26, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski im. Grzegorza Duneckiego → Grzegorz Dunecki Municipal Stadium – Your text looks good, and I see you've included some specific Wikipedia-style links. Here's the revised version with proper formatting for the links: This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 12:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Łomża) → Łomża Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Starachowice) → Starachowice Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Ząbki) → Ząbki Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Kielce) → Kielce Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Nisko) → Nisko Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – MOSiR Stadium (Wodzisław Śląski) → MOSiR Stadium (Wodzisław Śląski) – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Gdynia) → Gdynia Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Miejski Stadion Piłkarski "Raków" → Raków Municipal Stadium – This is the lead, this is the English name, this is the practice. Yesterday, my move was withdrawn as un-discussed. Okay? Well, let’s discuss it. From my side, it is as follows – ALL names of Polish stadiums are translated according to the WP:UE doctrine (except for those that were withdrawn yesterday) (cf. Category:Football venues in Poland). As evidence of the formation of consensus, please refer to Kazimierz Górski Stadium (Płock) and Wrocław Stadium (Wrocław). I am counting on your consent, otherwise – I expect the proposal of counterarguments. After all, rejecting this request will mean that we accept a state where some articles on Polish stadiums have English names, and some... Polish. Paradygmaty (talk) 10:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2009–10 Malmö shootings → Peter Mangs – While this article is very out of date and covers this poorly, the primary topic that the sources focus on is Mangs. Mangs was a serial killer, which we cover biographically as it is not a single event type of crime (imagine trying to cover Ted Bundy as 1970s American serial killings). The better developed Swedish article is written about Mangs. The two books and all journal articles about this topic are about Mangs as a person and structure their information to that effect, we should follow their lead. The very similar Laser Man I (this is Laser Man II) has a biographically based article for much of the same reason: John Ausonius. I want to improve this but as is this article's scope excludes much of his crime spree. It was written after the initial spate of news and just never updated again. This will have to be rewritten but I volunteer to do that. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – KGM Rexton → SsangYong Rexton – Models were sold under the SsangYong marque for decades over multiple generations before very recently some sort of rebrand occurred. These articles were moved to these titles without apparent discussion and to me this just comes across purely as WP:RECENTISM when the bulk of these articles' contents discusses the time when these vehicles were sold as SsangYongs. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 10:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)06:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bhutia language → Sikkimese language – I am opening this RM on the behalf of User:TseTen10 and several persistent IPs, who have been changing the lede and infobox to list Sikkimese as the language's primary name since October of last year. I've asked to open a proper RM themselves, but I guess they WP:DONTGETIT, From what I've been able to understand of their arguments, they believe in the face of no WP:COMMONNAME, at least judging by n-grams, one should default to the WP:OFFICIALNAME. Hopefully this RM can draw in more discussion than the last one and a more thorough consensus can be reached; I'd rather not spend the rest of 2025 engaging in admittedly a pretty WP:LAME edit war. ZionniThePeruser (talk) 20:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.StevenCrossinHelp resolve disputes! 11:05, 15 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 12:04, 22 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)06:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Gunnison grouse → Gunnison sage-grouse – Far and away the most common name for this species. A search on Google Scholar for "Gunnison Sage Grouse" returns 1430 results. A search for "Gunnison Grouse" returns just 38, most only barely relevant. For some reason, IOC is using the name "Gunnison Grouse" for this species, and a few other sources that follow their names such as IUCN and Xeno-canto are using it, but I see no evidence that anyone within the United States where the species is actually found is following along. We already use the non-IOC name for greater sage-grouse. This is such a obvious case I considered not even doing a RM but I figure there's no harm in putting this up here for a week or two. Somatochlora (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)06:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Wu Tao-yan → Wu Tao-yuan – This is the correct and also more common name. his name is 吳道源, the last part is Yuan, not Yan. I did some searches and while Wu Tao-yan is used by some sources, Wu Tao-yuan is more common. ISSF for example uses this. both official Olympic reports and Asian Games reports use Yuan. Sports2021 (talk) 02:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – 2022–2023 Moldovan energy crisis → 2022 Moldovan energy crisis – The current title is the result of an undiscussed move [46] by PoppysButterflies. I've wondered for a while if this was appropriate. It appears in February the energy crisis was already referred to in past language [47][48], and even in late January [49]. Energy prices decreased on 1 January 2023 [50], and they had already been decreasing on November 2022 [51]. The gist of the crisis was the reduction of Russian gas supplies to Moldova in October 2022 and its lack of alternatives. The deal with Transnistria to supply all Russian gas there in exchange of cheap electricity was reached in December 2022 [52], so by then government-held Moldova allegedly no longer used Russian gas [53]. Gas supplies through Romania to Moldova too started on December [54], so alternative supplies had been found by then, but I am not aware if this meant Romania was already supplying all of its gas to Moldova as happens today. There were conflicting reports throughtout 2023 as to when exactly had Moldova stopped depending on Russian gas. Though Moldova did receive EU funds to combat the energy crisis in early 2023, maybe this was just to replenish a depleted government budget, as the government handed over compensations for the increase in energy prices [55] (the system was created in October 2022 precisely). Looking through academic articles rather than news reports was unhelpful to decide on a timeframe for me. I am not sure ultimately because I did not follow this energy crisis in the news like I am following this one, and I am also not Moldovan. Nevertheless, I don't see much basis for keeping the current title, which was never elaborated on to begin with. But I'd appreciate it if other users could look into this and comment their own research. SuperΨDro 14:10, 21 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 23:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Discuss) – Paradisus Judaeorum → The Kingdom of Poland is... – This is the English-language rendering of the Latin-language title of the first of 5 pasquils, composed between 1606 and 1708-1709 (which are cited in the article in extenso) satirizing Polish society. (The 2nd pasquil was titled "Poland is..."; the 3rd, 4th, and 5th pasquils - "The illustrious Kingdom of Poland is...".) The five pasquils were written in Latin, which in the early modern period was an official language of governance in Poland. In the 19th century, the five pasquils were reduced to a four-member Polish-language saying that described Poland as "heaven for the nobility, purgatory for townfolk, hell for peasants, paradise for Jews." The article's most recent move, to "Paradisus Judaeorum", was an inappropriate instance of "pars pro toto" (the use of part of an entity to represent the entire entity). Nihil novi (talk) 17:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – France Bleu Breizh Izel → ici Breizh Izel – The France Bleu network changed its name in 2025, and the regional associate is now known as "ici Breizh Izel" (lowercase "i" intentional). I have not nominated the other regional articles since their status is a little more unclear right now, and I don't know how to bundle nominations. The Web site's home page has been updated to reflect this; [56] and the radio now refers to itself in this way [57], which should confirm the name change. 2A02:C7C:2DCE:1F00:4D29:6661:1D4E:6058 (talk) 20:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE16:04, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Bini → Bini (disambiguation) – This following requested move pertains to a member of the Filipino girl group Bini (group). I believe that all these requested moves are passed on WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Please read the following explanations: * Bini (group) ** Bini are passed on PRIMARYTOPIC because, the pageviews from January 1, 2024 until yesterday (January 28, 2025) nearly 1.2 Million pageviews. * Gwen (singer) ** Gwen is a member of Bini and she's have 54, 140 pageviews. * Mikha (singer) ** Mikha was also a member of Bini, she's have 110, 715 pageviews since the creation of the article. Not to be confused on Mika (singer). * Maloi (singer) ** Maloi was also a memeber of Bini, her article have 84, 562 pageviews since the creation of the article. ROY is WARTalk!02:42, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Jafaa (TV Series) → Jafaa – Although the second (below) is currently the primary redirect to its current target, it's been added on so as to convince the admin or page mover post-move discussion so as not to get confused. And although the first was just moved out of the draftspace, pageviews may not be an issue here, especially during the duration of this RM! What do you think? Intrisit (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)05:39, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Paris Saint-Germain Academy → Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy – A November 2024 RM failed, but it's unclear on what grounds. The current title, "Paris Saint-Germain Academy", refers to a program run by PSG for children across the world, giving them an opportunity to do training sessions under the PSG name and to improve on their game. It refers to this, with an example being the "France" academy here. These "schools" run by this "PSG Academy" program are NOT the actual youth academy this article is referring to. This article refers to the players that are in what is called in French the centre de formation, and by extension, those in the préformation. The article is referring to the players actually in PSG's youth system that ultimately goes up to the club's first team. And this youth system is NOT known by the name "Paris Saint-Germain Academy", both in sourcing and especially not by the club itself. The club calls its youth academy the centre de formationhere, which it itself translates to "Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy" on the same page in English. Paul Vaurie (talk) 09:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 12:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)18:07, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Elon Musk gesture controversy → Elon Musk salute controversy – Call a spade a spade. Sources do it (The Guardian, Forbes Staff, The Independent), so we should too. In the first few hours, a few scattered sources used "gesture", but recent sources have all switched to Nazi salute to refer to the incident. Editors have made arguments that "gesture" is more neutral than Nazi salute. Yet neutrality is not one of the five WP:CRITERIA. Rather, the relevant criteria heavily favor Nazi salute. The title is natural, as readers will be more likely to search the proposed title than the euphemistic status quo, and recognizable, as most readers searching for this will know what a Nazi salute is, while they would not immediately recognize a gesture as what Elon Musk did (there are many different gestures). For these reasons, I request that we move this article to the more recognizable name, Elon Musk Nazi salute controversy.* 🐔ChicdatBawk to me!15:43, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Autonomous university → University autonomy – The article title uses autonomous university as a designation and the examples used in the article are dubious. In Singapore, where it appears to be most used, it seems to be a marketing term that doesn't mean much. Singapore is a less democratic country so it essentially means less state control based on the lost reference used in the article. In Australia, every university is an autonomous university by the same standards but adding that would turn this article into a meaningless list. Same goes with Mexico, which only has one "autonomous" university listed on the article despite being far from the only one. If this article is about a designation, there is nothing to write about and this article loses notability. I am guessing this article may be more relevant to India, but the country doesn't appear to have a designation strictly called "autonomous university". Since this article appears to have no clear purpose, I'm proposing moving this article to university autonomy as on Spanish Wikipedia which would broaden the topic. Queen Douglas DC-3 (talk) 10:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan attack → Kuwait Peace Camp airstrike – The current title is not great: it's not particularly natural, precise or descriptive, but is merely a vague and fairly non-descript geographical handwave. The more natural titling surrounding the event in question has tended to revolve around the nomenclature of "Rafah tent ..." or "Rafah tent camp ..." (with attack/massacre as the operative descriptor) but these options equally lack precision (given there have been numerous tent camp attacks/massacres in Rafah). And yet "Tel al-Sultan" ironically isn't that much of an improvement, since Tel al-Sultan is equally not a specific city block or even neighborhood, but a substantial urban area within Rafah, and the attack also did not even really take place in Tel al-Sultan, but at a temporary tent camp on a previously deserted patch of land to the northeast of some UN warehouses that were themselves located to the northeast of Tel al-Sultan, on the other side of a peripheral ring road. The current title also does not mention either the key words "tent" or "camp" and is entirely obscure, non-descript and wholly unnatural as a search term. By contrast, the "Kuwait Peace Camp" is the precise location of the attack, as first attested by the BBC on 27 May based on the video footage, and confirmed by the Guardian and CNN on 29 May, and used as the principle identifier by Amnesty by 27 August. So this name represents the precise location of the attack and as a bonus contains the keyword "camp", so further specifies the nature of the event. And then "airstrike", because it was an airstrike, so that's precise, and the news coverage largely uses the term "strike". Meanwhile, the use of "attack" in the context is somewhat vague and could be confused with a ground assault, of which there have since been many in the area. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:26, 1 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:18, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Typhoon Ewiniar (2006) → Typhoon Ewiniar – Out of the three storms (2024, 2000, and 2006, this is the most powerful. (I'm going to exclude 2000, since it doesn't have a page). 2006 has more deaths, damages, and injuries than the 2024 version. The 2006 version affected five countries, while the 2024 version affected two countries. Since the 2006 version has more deaths, damages, injuries, and countries affected, it therefore has more coverage and popularity (and also historical impact). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 00:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.StevenCrossinHelp resolve disputes! 05:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:28, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm open to alternative title suggestions; my proposal is simply what seems to me to be the easiest way to resolve this. (Renaming this page to BYD Seal would require an alternative name for the article currently at that title.) Sable232 (talk) 00:44, 13 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Safari ScribeEdits!Talk! 20:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)07:21, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Harry Stinson → ? – The musician has almost three times as many page views per day relative to the real estate developer, and considerably more inbound links. I personally think the musician should be the primary topic. However, I am not sure what the most concise disambiguation term would be for the real estate developer, as Harry Stinson (real estate developer) seems long and unwieldy. I don't think Harry Edward Stinson should be considered here, as it's been barely sourced since 2008 and has zero to four page views a day. In short, it seems like the musician is the most searched-for of the Harry Stinsons out there and should therefore be the main one. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:51, 18 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.TiggerJay(talk)06:50, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – FAISS → Faiss – The team at Meta has aligned that just capitalizing the first letter is the correct name. That is the way it is named in the original paper. I have updated the references in the page to be "Faiss" already but I cannot change the title to "Faiss". I believe this should replace the existing redirect. The strongest argument I can make is: Even though other sources are using it incorrectly as FAISS, the primary updated research paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2401.08281 and the actively maintained Github repository use Faiss. At what point do we follow inconsistent sources versus the original source of truth? The original paper uses Faiss everywhere, and the Github uses Faiss everywhere, and the authors have said that it is intended to be Faiss. Inconsistent sources: - source 17 "FAISS vector codecs" is not the right title, it is simply "Vector codecs" (from the official Github, which uses "Faiss"). - 27 and 28 ANN bench repositories are inconsistent, some FAISS and some faiss - source 29 "Use a FAISS vector database with Haystack" uses Faiss and FAISS inconsistently. - source 30 "FAISS integration with Langchain" when following the URL actually uses "Faiss" in the title, but uses a mixture of FAISS, Faiss, faiss throughout the page. Sources that use it correctly as Faiss: - 1 through 5, 15 (papers or sources by original authors of Faiss) - 26: "Results of the Big ANN: NeurIPS'23 competition" Sources using it incorrectly as FAISS: - 11: "Quicker ADC : Unlocking the Hidden Potential of Product Quantization With SIMD" - 22: "Amazon OpenSearch Service now supports efficient vector query filters for FAISS" (but this is a web page that can be updated) - 23: "Milvus Knowhere" (but we can work with them to update it, because we meet with them often) Mnorris1921 (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mnorris1921 (talk) 20:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Help:How to import articles → ? – The current title is quite misleading. The word "import" on Wikipedia has a very specific definition (see Help:Import), but this seems like a guide on how to copy pages from other sources, with no information on actual importation. I don't know a specific title that would be preferable, but the current one is not acceptable. JJPMaster (she/they) 03:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia06:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Ella Morris → Ella Morris (disambiguation) – Per historical and past year of page views, Ella Morris (footballer) has become the primary topic for Ella Morris, despite the article only existing for less than a year. For reference Ella Morris (novel) was previously at Ella Morris before disambiguation, so the following calculations for the novel are inclusive of the primary topic at the time. Affected pages have been notified of discussion here and here. * 10Y page views (63% for footballer): 5,328 v 3179 [66]. * Last year page views (96% for footballer): 5,057 vs. 227 [67]. * Summary: the novel has historically had less than 1 view per day, while the footballer has averaged 16 views per day. [68]. CNC (talk) 12:50, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – GeForce 50 series → GeForce RTX 50 series – Including "RTX" in the titles of Wikipedia articles about recent ray-tracing enabled NVIDIA GeForce generations is important for several reasons: * Brand Recognition: "RTX" has become synonymous with NVIDIA's ray-tracing technology. By including "RTX" in the title, readers immediately associate the product with NVIDIA's specific technology and branding. * Clarity and Specificity: NVIDIA uses "RTX" to distinguish its GPUs that support real-time ray tracing, AI cores and other advanced graphics features from previous generations and competitors' products. Including "RTX" helps clarify which GPUs are equipped with these advanced capabilities. * Marketing and Differentiation: NVIDIA heavily markets its RTX GPUs as superior for real-time ray tracing and AI-enhanced graphics processing. Including "RTX" in the title reinforces this marketing message and differentiates NVIDIA's products in a competitive market. * Search Engine Optimization (SEO): Including "RTX" in the title improves search engine visibility and makes it easier for users searching specifically for NVIDIA's ray-tracing enabled GPUs to find relevant information quickly. Overall, "RTX" is a crucial part of NVIDIA's branding strategy and helps both consumers and enthusiasts identify and understand the advanced capabilities of their GPUs. Casting @4202C @LengthyMer @Maxeto0910 @AP 499D25Artem S. Tashkinov (talk) 11:22, 10 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia09:26, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Moldova and the Russo-Ukrainian War → Russian hybrid warfare against Moldova – This article is a compilation of actions that Russia has done to undermine and destabilize Moldova in the last years. They have happened during the Russo-Ukrainian War, but are part of a single coordinated effort and plan. We can rename the article so it covers this more precise and encyclopedic topic. We have a lot of sources describing this hybrid warfare that Russia is doing against Moldova. Here are some big names: the Institute for the Study of War ("The full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine is, in fact, supporting Russian hybrid warfare efforts in former Soviet states, particularly Moldova and Georgia"), the European Parliament ("vehemently condemns Russia's escalating malicious activities, interference and hybrid operations ahead of Moldovans going to the polls"), Politico citing Moldova's chief of police ("Moldova is facing a phenomenon of voter bribery, combined with hybrid warfare and disinformation, the likes of which our country has never seen before,"), Euronews ("the Kremlin has enacted elements of its hybrid war playbook in both states [Ukraine and Moldova]"), NATO itself ("In Moldova, Russia’s hybrid warfare has been aimed at toppling the country’s pro-EU government"). This hybrid warfare scheme would have involved many actions and events that are either already in the article or would have been had the article been written later. This article, currently with a vague and open scope, is the best recipient for this topic. Here are sources mentioning these actions as hybrid warfare: Russian-paid protests in Moldova ([69]: "Russia has dedicated considerable resources to its hybrid war. [...] For instance, protestors are routinely paid to participate in anti-government protests.", page 6; [70]: "It later emerged that protesters had been paid by Kremlin proxies to attend." in an article about Russian hybrid warfare in Moldova), continuous airspace violations and falling of drones and missiles ([71]: "The overall internal security situation remains stable, but fragile due to regular incidents such as bomb hoaxes and missiles or missile debris falling on Moldovan territory. in a section regarding hybrid warfare, page 258), Transnistria's role in this effort ([72]: "Chisinau has been the victim of a complex hybrid action carried out by the Kremlin on multiple levels. In this respect, the Transnistria region has long been used by Russia as a bargaining chip in its efforts to influence Republic of Moldova."), rigging of elections and vote-buying ([73]: "Indeed, Moldova's election season was marred by massive Russian interference in both campaigns. This meddling included cyberattacks, planned espionage at diaspora polling stations, and the outright buying of votes."; [74]: "Recent votes in the former Soviet states of Georgia and Moldova have been dogged by interference from Russian-backed elements.", "There is a suggestion that these efforts are part of Russia’s multifaceted hybrid warfare."), an alleged coup in February 2023 ([75]: "The timely leak of classified information about Russia's attempts to organize a coup in Chisinau allowed the government to react quickly", page 49, see source's title) and energy blackmail and the energy crisis of 2022 and 2023 (same source and page as before: "Thanks to substantial financial aid from the EU, Moldova was able to survive Russia’s energy blackmail in 2022 and even break Gazprom's monopoly."). This source summarizes everything nicely: Moldova's Response to Hybrid Attacks: A Learning-by-doing Strategy, page 2, "In addition to the potential risks coming from Transnistria, Moldova has witnessed a series of new challenges over the past year and a half, ranging from false bomb alerts, cyber-attacks, and explosions in Transnistria to energy blackmail, paid protests, and Kremlin proxies operating in the autonomous region of Gagauzia. This is all alongside continuous disinformation campaigns.". Note that I've only looked at English-language sources, and several of these sources are written by Moldovans themselves. Here are some random academic sources that I didn't use above [76][77][78][79][80][81][82]. I think no doubt remains that sources verify that Russia is waging hybrid warfare against Moldova. Do you agree that this article should cover this topic? SuperΨDro 12:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting.Safari ScribeEdits!Talk!12:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
^Friedmann, Yohanan (2011). "The Ahmadiyyah Movement". Oxford Bibliographies. Archived from the original on 14 December 2019. Retrieved 4 January 2019. The Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam is a modern Muslim messianic movement. It was founded in 1889 in the Indian province of Punjab by Ghulam Ahmad (b. c. 1835–d. 1908). Having been accused of rejecting the Muslim dogma asserting the finality of Muhammad's prophethood, the movement aroused the fierce opposition of the Sunni mainstream. During the period of British rule in India, the controversy was merely a doctrinal dispute between private individuals or voluntary organizations, but after most Ahmadis moved in 1947 to the professedly Islamic state of Pakistan, the issue was transformed into a major constitutional problem. The Sunni Muslim mainstream demanded the formal exclusion of the Ahmadis from the Muslim fold. This objective was attained in 1974: against the fierce opposition of the Ahmadis, the Pakistani parliament adopted a constitutional amendment declaring them non-Muslims. In 1984, in the framework of Ziya al-Haqq's Islamization trend in Pakistan, presidential Ordinance XX of 1984 transformed the religious observance of the Ahmadis into a criminal offense, punishable by three years of imprisonment. The ordinance subsequently became an instrument of choice for the harassment and judicial persecution of the Ahmadi community. Following its promulgation, the headquarters of the Qadiyani branch of the Ahmadi movement moved from Rabwa, Pakistan, to London.
^"Ahmadiyya Muslim Community – An Overview". Alislam.org. Archived from the original on 16 March 2015. Retrieved 14 November 2012. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community are Muslims who believe in the Messiah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (peace be on him) (1835-1908) of Qadian. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad founded the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in 1889 as a revival movement within Islam, emphasizing its essential teachings of peace, love, justice, and sanctity of life. Today, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the world's largest Islamic community under one Divinely appointed leader, His Holiness, Mirza Masroor Ahmad (may Allah be his Helper) (b. 1950). The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community spans over 200 nations with membership exceeding tens of millions.
^Rickershauser, Peter (March 1972). "Jersey Central had a great fall". Trains. Vol. 32, no. 5. pp. 20–28.
(Discuss) – Stanisław Lem and robots → Robots of Stanisław Lem – restore the original title. The article is about robots in the scifi works of Stanislaw Lem and the current title is an unnecessary broadening of the scope. There is nothing else to say about "robots and Lem". And there never will be because Lem is dead and will never have a chance to meet any robot (and he never interacted with robots in the past). I have no idea how this weird title was justified. --Altenmann>talk02:30, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Stadion Miejski (Białystok) → Białystok Municipal Stadium – I am submitting this request to revert the article title of the stadium in Białystok to its previous title, Białystok Municipal Stadium in light of recent actions by the user FromCzech. The move to the Polish-language title Stadion Miejski (Białystok) was made unilaterally and appears inconsistent with Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:UE. This guideline encourages the use of English translations where appropriate to maintain accessibility for the global readership. FromCzech has argued for the name change without prior discussion, potentially as a reaction to a naming debate on Lokotrans Aréna that I initiated. This recent move does not reflect a consensus, and it also disrupts the established consistency within the "Football venues in Poland" category, where nearly all stadium names are translated into English. Notable examples include Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium, Gdynia Municipal Stadium, Kielce Municipal Stadium, and Raków Municipal Stadium. I urge that the title "Białystok Municipal Stadium" be restored to uphold Wikipedia’s principles of consistency and transparency, while also preventing this matter from being affected by personal disputes or editing motivated by anything other than Wikipedia's editorial standards. Paradygmaty (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 11:07, 27 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 11:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Oleg of Drelinia → Oleg of Dereva – "drelinia" appears to be an WP:OR toponym, it is not widely attested in English-language WP:RS. Therefore, as pointed out in 2011 by User:Ghirlandajo, there is no such term as "drelinia". It was a good thing he decided rename the article to "Oleg of the Drevlyans", although that is still not quite what the text says. (Some English literature suggests "Oleg among the Derevlyans", but only for translating this specific sentence in PVL 69.8–9). Nevertheless, in 2018 this was reverted back to "Oleg of Drelinia" by User:Iryna Harpy with the comment revert: Undiscussed move. Drelinia is attested to in English language texts, whether correct or incorrect. Is WP:OR as WP:TITLE. Well, I could find only 1 hit on Google Books (Ase Berit, Rolf Strandskogen 2015, which may have been influenced by this enwiki article), and 0 hits on Google Scholar. So let's get back to the basics. The land in question is simply called Дерева Dereva, which in modern Ukrainian and Russian still simply means "the trees" or "the woods" (plural; in singular wikt:дерево), i.e. "the Woods". * Въ лѣто 6478. Святославъ посади Яропълка въ Кыевѣ, а Ольга въ Деревѣхъ. (PVL 69.8–9 Ostrowski et al. 2003 ** Vŭ lěto 6478. Svyatoslavŭ posadi Yaropolŭka vŭ Kyevŭ, a Olĭga vŭ Derevěkhŭ. *** 6478 (970). Svyatoslav set up Yaropolk in Kiev and Oleg in Dereva.Cross&SW 1953 p. 87деревѣхъ (derevěkhŭ) is the plural locative of дерево in Old East Slavic. It literally means "in the woods". Sometimes it is nevertheless translated as Derevlyans or some spelling variation of that ethnonym (e.g. Thuis 2015 Derevljanen), but in this case, it is a toponym, referring to a land (Dereva "the Woods") and not to a people (Derevlyans "the Wood-Dwellers"). In 12 cases in total, Cross&SW rendered the toponym as Dereva, and never as "Drelinia". In the incident in which Oleg kills Lyut', Oleg's hunting grounds are similarly called "in the forest", but with a different word: въ лѣсѣvŭ lěsě (PVL 74.12–14; Cross&SW p. 90). Compare with the next event (1): *В лѣто 6485. Поиде Яропълкъ на Ольга, брата своего, на Деревьску землю. PVL 74.22–23 ** Vŭ lěto 6485. Poide Yaropŭlkŭ na Olĭga, brata svoego, na Derevĭsku zemlyu. *** 6484-6485 (976-977). Yaropolk marched against his brother Oleg into the district of Dereva. p. 90 Compare with a previous event (2): *И послуша ихъ Игорь; иде въ Дерева въ дань. PVL 54.20 ** I poslusha ikhŭ Igorĭ; ide vŭ Dereva vŭ danĭ. *** Igor' heeded their words, and he attacked Dereva in search of tribute. p. 78 Some English-language literature suggests simply Oleg of Dereva, or Oleg Sviatoslavich of Dereva. Going by our own enwiki conventions, we could also go for Oleg, Prince of Dereva, but that has the problem of translating knyaz, which is a whole other discussion that we better avoid. interwikis suggestOleg Sviatoslavich (Prince of Dereva or Oleg Sviatoslavich (Derevlyan prince) (but those would not conform to enwiki conventions), or simply Oleg Sviatoslavich (but that already redirects to Oleg I of Chernigov). All things considered, Oleg of Dereva is the most obvious title: it conforms to our conventions, it is WP:CONCISE, it is somewhat attested in literature, plus Dereva separately is overwhelmingly attested in English-language literature as the toponym's WP:COMMONNAME. The current title is WP:OR and cannot be maintained anymore, and the other options all have certain problems that Oleg of Dereva does not have. NLeeuw (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Matheus Pereira → Matheus Pereira (disambiguation) – It was previously moved via copy-paste so we reverted it and are requesting this move, there's no need to add the suffix "footballer, born 1996" as the player is greatly more known when compared to others of the same name as he's part of the Brazilian national team and was an important player on the English Premier League. Mastertales (talk) 15:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Mastertales (talk) 02:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Discuss) – Mighty Ducks (disambiguation) → Mighty Ducks – No clear primary topic, the franchise has 11,437 views but the film has 11,928, Game Changers has 7,266, The Animated Series has 3,954, Cincinnati Mighty Ducks has 956, D2: The Mighty Ducks has 7,685, D3: The Mighty Ducks has 5,898 and Anaheim Ducks has 31,831[[83]]. Given some of these meanings are unrelated I think its best to have no primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.cyberdog958Talk08:51, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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